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Article: 70800
Subject: Re: Family Photo Album
From: Austin Lesea <austin@xilinx.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:00:32 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
http://www.xilinx.com/products/spartan3/s3boards.htm

is the $99 S3 starter kit (orderable over the web).

Austin

PS:  for anyone playing around with ancient FPGAs, give yourself a 
break, and just order the latest technology to play with.

Article: 70801
Subject: Re: Battle of the Vapours
From: Peter Alfke <peter@xilinx.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:09:41 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>


> From: Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Well, the US does not consider the UK an "evil empire" (at least not since
the war of 1815), so the export rules vary by country. Last I looked many
years ago, Albania was at the bottom of the list...

Regarding max toggle rate, LUT and clock-to-Q are just one ingredient,
routing is the bigger one. Present routing structures favor complex designs,
but hurt very simple situations, like toggling flip-flops.

Peter Alfke

>> (The idea was to avoid helping the "evil empire" develop better missile
>> guidance systems).
> 
> OK, I suppose that makes a certain degree of sense; I wonder slightly
> how the big microprocessor vendors get round that issue. There were
> those Apple adverts saying that their machine was by export-control
> standards a supercomputer, but I've seen plenty of dual-G5 boxes on
> my side of the Atlantic.
> 
> With my Dr Evil hat on, I wonder slightly how you set a maximum toggle
> frequency when the LUT propagation time is already down to 700ps or so
> -- I wonder if it's a matter of refraining from heroic engineering
> efforts to keep parasitic capacitance down in the flip-flops, or a
> couple of lines in the depths of the hardware-compiler?
> 
> Tom


Article: 70802
Subject: Re: Battle of the Vapours
From: "Symon" <symon_brewer@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:36:35 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Tom,
I think you're getting the wrong end of the stick. Xilinx make their parts
go as fast as they want. They then have to publish an FTOG figure which the
US government then uses to decide if the chips should be restricted, and if
so, to which countries. Presumably you're British, so (according to the
export rules!) not part of the 'axis of evil'. You'll get the parts OK, but
don't build them into something you're planning on selling in North Korea.
Or there'll be ....trouble...
Cheers mate, Syms.
p.s. Google for microprocessors "export restrictions"


"Thomas Womack" <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
news:jwj*wscoq@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
>
> With my Dr Evil hat on, I wonder slightly how you set a maximum toggle
> frequency when the LUT propagation time is already down to 700ps or so
> -- I wonder if it's a matter of refraining from heroic engineering
> efforts to keep parasitic capacitance down in the flip-flops, or a
> couple of lines in the depths of the hardware-compiler?
>
> Tom



Article: 70803
Subject: Re: Family Photo Album
From: "Symon" <symon_brewer@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:40:34 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Austin,
What sort of JTAG download cable is included in that kit? I don't recognise
it.
Ta, Syms.

"Austin Lesea" <austin@xilinx.com> wrote in message
news:cbq4cp$2kr4@cliff.xsj.xilinx.com...
> http://www.xilinx.com/products/spartan3/s3boards.htm
>
> is the $99 S3 starter kit (orderable over the web).
>
> Austin
>
> PS:  for anyone playing around with ancient FPGAs, give yourself a
> break, and just order the latest technology to play with.



Article: 70804
Subject: Download Nios II evaluation version today
From: gacalac@yahoo.com (Alan Calac)
Date: 28 Jun 2004 17:55:57 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
I know there has been some interst here, so I thought I'd mention that
there's an evaluation version of the Nios II processor now available
from Altera's website.

Check it out at: https://www.altera.com/support/software/download/sof-download_center.html

--Alan

Article: 70805
Subject: Re: Battle of the Vapours
From: rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:01:48 -0400
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Peter Alfke wrote:
> 
> > From: Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
> > Organization: Linux Unlimited
> > Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga
> > Date: 28 Jun 2004 20:03:20 +0100 (BST)
> > Subject: Battle of the Vapours
> >
> > > What _is_ the business about "maximum toggle frequency 500MHz (for
> > export control)" in the Spartan3 datasheet?
> >
> There are restrictions on exporting (from the US) devices above a certain
> level of sophistication. And the government measures that as toggle rate.
> (The idea was to avoid helping the "evil empire" develop better missile
> guidance systems).
> The Cold War lives forever...

So are products containing Spartan 3 parts at 500 MHz toggle freq
restricted?  I have looked at several government web sites and not been
able to determine what is restricted and what is not.  

-- 

Rick "rickman" Collins

rick.collins@XYarius.com
Ignore the reply address. To email me use the above address with the XY
removed.

Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company
Specializing in DSP and FPGA design      URL http://www.arius.com
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Frederick, MD 21701-3110                 301-682-7666 FAX

Article: 70806
Subject: Re: Battle of the Vapours
From: rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:05:52 -0400
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Thomas Womack wrote:
> 
> In article <BD05CC88.7201%peter@xilinx.com>,
> Peter Alfke  <peter@xilinx.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> From: Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
> >> Organization: Linux Unlimited
> >> Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga
> >> Date: 28 Jun 2004 20:03:20 +0100 (BST)
> >> Subject: Battle of the Vapours
> >>
> >> > What _is_ the business about "maximum toggle frequency 500MHz (for
> >> export control)" in the Spartan3 datasheet?
> 
> >There are restrictions on exporting (from the US) devices above a certain
> >level of sophistication. And the government measures that as toggle rate.
> >(The idea was to avoid helping the "evil empire" develop better missile
> >guidance systems).
> 
> OK, I suppose that makes a certain degree of sense; I wonder slightly
> how the big microprocessor vendors get round that issue. There were
> those Apple adverts saying that their machine was by export-control
> standards a supercomputer, but I've seen plenty of dual-G5 boxes on
> my side of the Atlantic.

The restrictions can be very strange.  I was involved in a converstion
about GSM cell phone manufacturing and repair once.  Seems the
encryption in the GSM phones was "export controlled" by the US.  So the
phones could be made outside the US and shipped in.  But they could not
be shipped back out for repair.  

-- 

Rick "rickman" Collins

rick.collins@XYarius.com
Ignore the reply address. To email me use the above address with the XY
removed.

Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company
Specializing in DSP and FPGA design      URL http://www.arius.com
4 King Ave                               301-682-7772 Voice
Frederick, MD 21701-3110                 301-682-7666 FAX

Article: 70807
Subject: Re: Family Photo Album
From: Jim Granville <no.spam@designtools.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:09:48 +1200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Austin Lesea wrote:
> http://www.xilinx.com/products/spartan3/s3boards.htm
> 
> is the $99 S3 starter kit (orderable over the web).
> 
> Austin
> 
> PS:  for anyone playing around with ancient FPGAs, give yourself a 
> break, and just order the latest technology to play with.

  Nice system.
Can you refresh us, as it's not clear on the link above.
  IIRC, PicoBlaze is free [Xilinx hosted understood :)],
and MicroBlaze is $$ - correct ?
-jg


Article: 70808
Subject: Re: Communication FPGA & MII
From: wpiman@aol.com (MS)
Date: 28 Jun 2004 18:41:28 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
"brian hubeau" <bhb22l@yahoo.fr> wrote in message news:<cbc0iv$aie$1@s1.read.news.oleane.net>...
> Hello All !
> 
> I would like to know, if anybody has already made experiances with
> communication between  XILINX (Virtex) and  MII (Medium Independent
> Interface ) ??
> Does already exist a free VHDL CORE for this interface ?
> Where can I get it ?
> 
> Thanks for all informations !
> 
> Brian.


You can plop down a standard MAC part or you can use a MAC core inside
the FPGA.  Try opencores.com- they have an open source MAC core.  It
uses a wishbone interface to the FPGA.

Article: 70809
Subject: Re: Battle of the Vapours
From: Jim Granville <no.spam@designtools.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:16:42 +1200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Peter Alfke wrote:
> 
>>From: Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>>>What _is_ the business about "maximum toggle frequency 500MHz (for
>>export control)" in the Spartan3 datasheet?
>>
> 
> There are restrictions on exporting (from the US) devices above a certain
> level of sophistication. And the government measures that as toggle rate.
> (The idea was to avoid helping the "evil empire" develop better missile
> guidance systems).
> The Cold War lives forever...
> Peter Alfke

  The politicians, of course, have no idea what any of this means.
I can picture them looking at the specs...:
Toggle rates of 500MHz, yes, that's fast.....
3.3GBps - hmm, no 3.3 is less than 500, so that's OK
10Gbps - still OK, 10 is < 500
2.4 terabit - whoa, someone could build a tera-network using that!!
:)


Article: 70810
Subject: Re: Spartan/SpartanXL Device Selection
From: t_naimesh@rediffmail.com (Naimesh)
Date: 28 Jun 2004 20:53:09 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Thanks for the help. I've decided to go for Spartan II now. saw the
price difference between Spartan and Spartan II.


"John_H" <johnhandwork@mail.com> wrote in message news:<ugYBc.13$I25.1709@news-west.eli.net>...
> 74HCT series logic, for instance, is CMOS yet fully compatible with the 3.3V
> interface as long as the series resistors are used on the inputs (or I/Os).
> The 74HCT input levels are specified for TTL levels.  The big question is
> what are the logic level requirements that you're interfacing with?

Article: 70811
Subject: Answer Record # 18857 compiling modelsim library
From: "John Craven" <cunnilingus@coolkiwi.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:12:41 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hello, 

I get the same error as described by Record Number: 18857. 
I run ModelSim 5.5F SE and ISE 6. Both tools are 2002 and 
later versions hence must be VITAL compliant. 

I keep my fingers crossed for the solution. Tnx, 

Johnny 

6.1i COMPXLIB - "ERROR: Could not open library vital2000 at vital2000: No such file or directory" 

General Description: 
Using COMPXLIB to compile simulation libraries from the command line results in an error similar to the following: 

"ERROR: Could not open library vital2000 at vital2000: No such file or directory 
###### C:\Xilinx\vhdl\src\simprims\simprim_Vcomponents_mti.vhd(74): library VITAL2000; 
ERROR: C:\Xilinx\vhdl\src\simprims\simprim_Vcomponents_mti.vhd(74): Library vital2000 not found. 
###### C:\Xilinx\vhdl\src\simprims\simprim_Vcomponents_mti.vhd(75): use VITAL2000.VITAL_Timing 



Article: 70812
Subject: Re: FPGA jobs in Germany
From: Guenter Dannoritzer <dannoritzer@web.de>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:14:17 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
lenz wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I will finish the University within the next months. Now I am looking
> for companies in Germany in the field of FPGA. 
> 
> I have found some companies specialized in FPGA design and consulting
> - El Camino
> - Polar Design
> - Array Electronics

Go to the http://www.xilinx.com/partners/index.htm and look under Design 
Services. Altera has probably something similar.

> 
> Are there any other FPGA design/consulting companys in Germany ?
> Which companys employ FPGAs in their products and therefore could
> be a potential employer for me ?
> 
> Thank you very much.

It kind of depends on what you want to do. You can go to Siemens and be 
in a department where they put FPGAs in their systems, but end up not 
doing anything that goes inside the FPGA. So if you like to do the logic 
design, rather look for design/consulting type companies, chances are, 
they do the logic that Siemens puts in their systems.

You should also get an idea what type of logic design you would like to 
do. There are companies that specialize in implementing DSP algorithms 
in FPGAs, others do more telecommunications stuff, etc.

Good luck on you job search.

Guenter


Article: 70813
Subject: Re: How to add clock delay in CPLD?
From: hmurray@suespammers.org (Hal Murray)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:37:08 -0500
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
>Going off- and on-chip again gives also some delay that no optimizer will
>optimize away, at the expense of two pins...

Suppose I go off and back on using a single pin.  How much software
is "smart" enough to optimize that out?

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Article: 70814
Subject: Re: Nios stops responding to interrupts
From: hmurray@suespammers.org (Hal Murray)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:44:08 -0500
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
>My user logic module clears the IRQ whenever I read a register. Normally 
>this is done in the ISR. Eventually the IRQ does not clear because the 
>ISR is not called. (This does not seem to be the case of the ISR getting 
>called, but not clearing the IRQ for some reason). I tried adding a read 
>of the same clearing register in my main loop every 100ms. This 'kick 
>starts' the Nios when it is ignoring IRQs, but probably at a cost of a 
>lost IRQ - it works, but is not acceptable.

I don't know anything about Nios.

You might try talking to software geeks.  There is a classic interrupt
bug where the IRS turns off the interrupt but forgets to make one
last check to see if an interrupt came in just before it turned it off.

You should be able to debug this with a little work.  Do you have a LED
on your IRQ signal?  Is it on or off?  If it's on, then the software
is not processing it.  If it's off...  Keep dividing the search.

Bugs that happen often/easily are easy to fix.  The hard ones are the
ones that only happen when you aren't looking or once per week or month.

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Article: 70815
Subject: Programming Nios Ethernet Development Kit
From: csim036@ec.auckland.ac.nz (Colin)
Date: 29 Jun 2004 00:05:08 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi,

As part of a project my partner and I are required to use the APEX
board and the NIOS Ethernet Development Kit for internet
communication.  We need an indepth understanding of the software code
needed to program the ethernet board, e.g. initiallizing, sending,
etc. however the manual and online resources don't have alot of
information.

Is there anyone who has used the ethernet adapter board and has
managed to make an application using it? because i'm having difficulty
intialising the plug and using the structures avaible (from the
manual) to get simple application going.. your help is most most
appreciated!! :))

Cheers

Article: 70816
Subject: Where are the EDK3.x service packs?
From: Sean Durkin <smd@despammed.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:12:47 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi all,

where did the Service Packs for EDK 3.1 and EDK 3.2 on the Xilinx 
website go? I know they exist, but they are nowhere to be found...

They are mentioned in several answer records, but the download links 
lead nowhere...

Am I blind or missing something? There are still service packs for old 
ISE-releases, but none for older EDKs...

I'm in the middle of a project and don't want to switch to EDK6.2 just 
yet...

cu,
Sean

Article: 70817
Subject: Re: GT10_PCI_EXPRESS_n
From: Petter Gustad <newsmailcomp5@gustad.com>
Date: 29 Jun 2004 09:14:50 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Eric Crabill <eric.crabill@xilinx.com> writes:

> No.  You can use Virtex-II Pro for PCI Express, and we do!

This was my impression until I was confused by the discovery of the
GT10_PCI_EXPRESS_n primitive. Thank you for the clarification.

Petter
-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

Article: 70818
Subject: Re: Where are the EDK3.x service packs?
From: Sean Durkin <smd@despammed.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:37:16 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Sean Durkin wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> where did the Service Packs for EDK 3.1 and EDK 3.2 on the Xilinx 
> website go? I know they exist, but they are nowhere to be found...
OK, got it... the files are still there, but there are no more links on 
the website... In case someone else needs them, here are the links:

Service Pack 1:
http://support.xilinx.com/ise/embedded/EDK/edk_3_2_1_win.exe

Service Pack 2:
http://support.xilinx.com/ise/embedded/EDK/edk_3_2_2_win.exe

cu,
Sean

Article: 70819
Subject: Re: FPGA jobs in Germany
From: johnjakson@yahoo.com (john jakson)
Date: 29 Jun 2004 06:16:05 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Guenter Dannoritzer <dannoritzer@web.de> wrote in message news:<cbqtra$8ci$00$1@news.t-online.com>...
> lenz wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I will finish the University within the next months. Now I am looking
> > for companies in Germany in the field of FPGA. 
> > 
> > I have found some companies specialized in FPGA design and consulting
> > - El Camino
> > - Polar Design
> > - Array Electronics
> 
> Go to the http://www.xilinx.com/partners/index.htm and look under Design 
> Services. Altera has probably something similar.
> 
> > 
> > Are there any other FPGA design/consulting companys in Germany ?
> > Which companys employ FPGAs in their products and therefore could
> > be a potential employer for me ?
> > 
> > Thank you very much.
> 
> It kind of depends on what you want to do. You can go to Siemens and be 
> in a department where they put FPGAs in their systems, but end up not 
> doing anything that goes inside the FPGA. So if you like to do the logic 
> design, rather look for design/consulting type companies, chances are, 
> they do the logic that Siemens puts in their systems.
> 
> You should also get an idea what type of logic design you would like to 
> do. There are companies that specialize in implementing DSP algorithms 
> in FPGAs, others do more telecommunications stuff, etc.
> 
> Good luck on you job search.
> 
> Guenter

Take a look at this list and other lists at the bottom and look for
gmbh companies that suppy boards, might be of help, if no gmbh, look
for euro sign as a clue.

amo, cesys, seng, trenz, I thought there were more

http://www.fpga-faq.com/FPGA_Boards.shtml

regards

johnjakson_usa-com

Article: 70820
Subject: Re: Family Photo Album
From: Austin Lesea <austin@xilinx.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:50:39 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Symon,

Do not know.  I'll find out.

Austin

Symon wrote:
> Austin,
> What sort of JTAG download cable is included in that kit? I don't recognise
> it.
> Ta, Syms.
> 
> "Austin Lesea" <austin@xilinx.com> wrote in message
> news:cbq4cp$2kr4@cliff.xsj.xilinx.com...
> 
>>http://www.xilinx.com/products/spartan3/s3boards.htm
>>
>>is the $99 S3 starter kit (orderable over the web).
>>
>>Austin
>>
>>PS:  for anyone playing around with ancient FPGAs, give yourself a
>>break, and just order the latest technology to play with.
> 
> 
> 

Article: 70821
Subject: Re: Family Photo Album
From: Austin Lesea <austin@xilinx.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:54:21 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Jim,

Right you are.

Austin

Jim Granville wrote:

> Austin Lesea wrote:
> 
>> http://www.xilinx.com/products/spartan3/s3boards.htm
>>
>> is the $99 S3 starter kit (orderable over the web).
>>
>> Austin
>>
>> PS:  for anyone playing around with ancient FPGAs, give yourself a 
>> break, and just order the latest technology to play with.
> 
> 
>  Nice system.
> Can you refresh us, as it's not clear on the link above.
>  IIRC, PicoBlaze is free [Xilinx hosted understood :)],
> and MicroBlaze is $$ - correct ?
> -jg
> 

Article: 70822
Subject: Re: Battle of the Vapours
From: Austin Lesea <austin@xilinx.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:57:25 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Jim,

You are absolutely correct:  we must prevent tera.

There is a war on tera, right now!

Austin

PS:  I've herad of 'two bit' networks, but tera-bit networks???

Jim Granville wrote:

> Peter Alfke wrote:
> 
>>
>>> From: Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>>>
>>>> What _is_ the business about "maximum toggle frequency 500MHz (for
>>>
>>> export control)" in the Spartan3 datasheet?
>>>
>>
>> There are restrictions on exporting (from the US) devices above a certain
>> level of sophistication. And the government measures that as toggle rate.
>> (The idea was to avoid helping the "evil empire" develop better missile
>> guidance systems).
>> The Cold War lives forever...
>> Peter Alfke
> 
> 
>  The politicians, of course, have no idea what any of this means.
> I can picture them looking at the specs...:
> Toggle rates of 500MHz, yes, that's fast.....
> 3.3GBps - hmm, no 3.3 is less than 500, so that's OK
> 10Gbps - still OK, 10 is < 500
> 2.4 terabit - whoa, someone could build a tera-network using that!!
> :)
> 

Article: 70823
Subject: Re: Family Photo Album
From: "Steven K. Knapp" <steve.knappNO#SPAM@xilinx.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:03:51 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>

"Symon" <symon_brewer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2kbs45Fg2klU1@uni-berlin.de...

> What sort of JTAG download cable is included in that kit? I don't
recognise
> it.

The JTAG programming cable supplied with the kit is a Digilent JTAG3 cable.
In connects between the parallel port on a PC and the JTAG connector on the
board.  It is directly compatible with the Xilinx iMPACT software.

Digilent JTAG3 JTAG Cable
https://digilent.us/Sales/Product.cfm?Prod=JTAG3

---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/II/IIE FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3
---------------------------------
Spartan-3:  Make it Your ASIC



Article: 70824
Subject: Re: Family Photo Album
From: "Steven K. Knapp" <steve.knappNO#SPAM@xilinx.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:11:33 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>

"Jim Granville" <no.spam@designtools.co.nz> wrote in message
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>   Nice system.
> Can you refresh us, as it's not clear on the link above.
>   IIRC, PicoBlaze is free [Xilinx hosted understood :)],
> and MicroBlaze is $$ - correct ?
> -jg

Correct.  The PicoBlaze 8-bit embedded controller core is available at
no-charge.  The newest version for Spartan-3, Virtex-II, and Virtex-II Pro
includes a few new instructions and a 64-byte scratchpad RAM.  The core and
user guide are available via the following link.  Unfortunately, the Xilinx
site asks you to register before you can download the PicoBlaze VHDL source.

Xilinx PicoBlaze 8-bit Embedded Controller
http://www.xilinx.com/picoblaze

The 32-bit MicroBlaze RISC core is part of the Xilinx Embedded Development
Kit (EDK), which includes other development software and IP cores.
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Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/II/IIE FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3
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Spartan-3:  Make it Your ASIC





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