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Article: 30725
Subject: it worked-site for salary information
From: Scullen <scullen@localnet.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:44:49 -0400
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
A few weeks back I noticed a posting regarding salary information for
Hardware Engineers and I checked it out.       www.hitechsalary.com

At the time, I was entertaining new opportunities and needed to know
what my salary should be for the two areas I was interviewing in, this
site worked great.  It gave me the information I was looking and
negotiated a better salary.    I was able to get an extra $4k in my
package.
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Scullen
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Article: 30726
Subject: Re: Configuration via PCI JTAG
From: Nicolas Matringe <nicolas.matringe@IPricot.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:45:01 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
mike wrote:
> 
> hi all,
> i want to configure my fpga on a pci card via the jtag pins
> on the pci connector, but i dont know how to access these pins.
> can you help me?

hi
These pins are here only for test purpose. I think they're linked to
some test port on the board but you can't access them through any
component of the board, unless you add a cable between the parallel port
and this JTAG port (if you can find it)

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Article: 30727
Subject: manufacturer's of FIR chips
From: "Paul Teagle" <pteagle@chariot.net.au>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:17:22 +0930
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi,

can any one point me towards some manufacturers of programmable FIR chips
(not Graychip or Intersil - I have data on them). I want to contrast
performance & price vs implementation in FPGAs.

The sort of speeds & resolution I'm looking for a probably the killer -
175MHz & 16 bits (yes I know, an FPGA really is the way to go, but, I gotta
look!)

regards,

Paul T.



Article: 30728
Subject: <no subject>
From: floreq10@hotmail.com ("elvira catherina")
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:12:09 +0000 (UTC)
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
say i want to route a signal vertically form y1 to y2 coordinates, is it 
faster to route it through the carry logic, or just using the dedicated 
routing ressources

thanks

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Article: 30729
Subject: Re: XHWIF and Virtex Strartup
From: "Vivian" <vivian.bessler@ucd.ie>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:25:42 +0100
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi,
I discovered that the loadBitFile method does not work for bit files created
by bitgen with the option "-g Security:Level2" (a default option in
foundation).  By setting "-g Security:None" I have resolved the problem.

Vivian


"Vivian" <vivian.bessler@ucd.ie> wrote in message
news:newscache$qwuacg$uv4$1@weblab.ucd.ie...
> Hi,
>
> I'm using the rc1000pp board from celoxica with a virtex 1000 fpga.
> Currently I'm trying to configure it using the XHWIF interface instead of
> the c libraries that came with the board.
>
> The following c code works:
>
> PP1000SetClockRate(Handle, PP1000_VCLK, 10e6);
> PP1000ConfigureFromFile(Handle, "config.bit");
>
> However the following java code does not:
>
> XHWIFwEvents.setClockFrequency(10);
> XHWIFcon.loadBitFile("config.bit",0);
> xhwif.clockOn();
> con.softReset(0);
>
> The problem only seems to occur when the design requires a global reset.
>
> Does anyone know the difference between: PP1000ConfigureFromFile and
> XHWIFcon.loadBitFile ?
>
> Thanks,
> Viv
>
>



Article: 30730
Subject: Re: manufacturer's of FIR chips
From: Ray Andraka <ray@andraka.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:21:06 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
My info is dated but:

Harris (now intersil), Graychip, LSI Logic, TRW (Raytheon), GEC Plessey all make
or made FIR chips.  None are as flexible or powerful as what you can do in an
FPGA.


Paul Teagle wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> can any one point me towards some manufacturers of programmable FIR chips
> (not Graychip or Intersil - I have data on them). I want to contrast
> performance & price vs implementation in FPGAs.
> 
> The sort of speeds & resolution I'm looking for a probably the killer -
> 175MHz & 16 bits (yes I know, an FPGA really is the way to go, but, I gotta
> look!)
> 
> regards,
> 
> Paul T.

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Article: 30731
Subject: Re: Virtex power supplies.
From: wireless@NOSPAMdacafe.com (Henri)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:07:35 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:37:58 GMT, William Lenihan
<lenihan3we@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>I've heard various concerns & comments raised about unusually large
>power
>supply currents before FPGA configuration is completed. What's the real
>story on this issue ....

there was an other thread around the 20th feb.  I am told by a xilinx
employee that an app note regarding this with some circuit suggestion
will be posted on this newsgroup 
>
>Are these current surges happening
>    ____ during power-up (as Vcc's ramp up) ?

that is what I understand . A significant peak in current demand : if
the supply cannot provide the demanded current , the device just sits
there and does not go on to configuration . There is also a voltage vs
time template for the time between 2ms & 50 ms  in the data sheet
(spartan ii , i have not checked the virtex) 

the required circuit in the previous thread suggested using a large
capacitor at the input of a ldo and turning on the ldo when it's input
voltage was stable . 

>    ____ After Vcc ramp-up, but before configuration ?
before ramp-up
>    ____ during configuration ?
no
>
>Are these current surges happening on core Vcc(s) or I/O Vcc(s) or both

from what i understand on the core vcc
>?
>
Henri 
wireless@NOSPAMdacafe.com
remove the nospam to use email 

Article: 30732
Subject: Re: bidirectional I/O
From: Falk Brunner <Falk.Brunner@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:14:04 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Zhen Luo schrieb:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to map my design to a board (with VirtexE chip on that) with a
> few SRAM banks. I need to both read and write the data from/to the SRAM.
> Because of this, I am hoping to use input/output pins. I am trying to find a
> core for the bidirectional I/O, but it seems there is not any.
> 
> I would greatly appreciate it if you could share your experience with the
> bidirectional I/O pins on VirtexE chips with me. I am wondering if the
> following code fragments would be enough to let the tools know what I want.
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> bi_io <= out_reg when out_en = '1'
>               'Z' when others;
> 
> process (clock, reset)
> begin
>    if (reset = '1') then
>      in_reg <=  '0';
>      out_reg <= '0';
>   elsif (clock'event and clock = '1') then
>      out_reg <= some_internal_signal;
>      if (out_en = '0') then   -- read from bio_io
>        in_reg <= bi_io;
>      end if;
>   end if;
> end process;

This is the right way.

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Falk

Article: 30733
Subject: Anyone use Altera PCI developement Kit ?
From: "Ajack" <ajack@ms1.hinet.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:23:47 +0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi,

I am using the Altera PCI developement Kit (PCI-BOARD/A4E).
It has 1 APEX20K400E device.
But I don't know .... Is there any PCI core inside the FPGA or not ?

Beaucse...
1>The sales told me, There are no PCI core in it and if I want I should may
US10000 for Altera MageCore !
2>on the other side.  I download a file to the on board FLASH memory. (This
file is under the Altera install directory. It is already there). After
that, I can do PCI target write test from Altera's demo software !? ( the
PCI slot DEVSEL pin has wavefor !!)

BTW,
How can I add my circuit into the FLASH file, and not erase that "core" ?

Ajack











Article: 30734
Subject: Bidirection port simulation
From: Jeff <madisonfff@usa.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:21:48 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi 

I am trying to simulate a biodirection port, however the 
simulation result is always not right
IO is my bidirection port
Here is my script file:

wfm CLK @0=0 5ns=1 15ns=0
assign EN 1
wfm IO @0=ABCD\H 120=F\H 
wfm RW @0=0 200=1
sim 40ns
time =20ns release IO

When RW=1 at 20ns, I hope IO could be
the Value of Q, so I release IO at 20ns
however the simulator says"
Illegal Macro name time"
What is wrong?
Also usually how do u simulate such bidirection port?
Thanks a lot!

Article: 30735
Subject: Re: Something about the counter
From: Magnus Homann <d0asta@mis.dtek.chalmers.se>
Date: 26 Apr 2001 21:42:52 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
"Helen Long" <madisonfff@usa.net> writes:

> I have another question about it
> I got the maxium clock frequency from the fe.log file,
> There says that maxium frequency is **MHz
> Does that mean the real maxium frequency is **Mhz?

The maximum frequence the design _can_ run on without breaking. What it runs at is what you provide on the clock input.

> I had an empty UCF file

Bad. If you don't tell the tools what you want, you wont get it!

Homann
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Article: 30736
Subject: bidirectional I/O
From: "Zhen Luo" <zhenluo@ee.princeton.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:05:32 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hello,

I am trying to map my design to a board (with VirtexE chip on that) with a
few SRAM banks. I need to both read and write the data from/to the SRAM.
Because of this, I am hoping to use input/output pins. I am trying to find a
core for the bidirectional I/O, but it seems there is not any.

I would greatly appreciate it if you could share your experience with the
bidirectional I/O pins on VirtexE chips with me. I am wondering if the
following code fragments would be enough to let the tools know what I want.
Thanks a lot!

bi_io <= out_reg when out_en = '1'
              'Z' when others;

process (clock, reset)
begin
   if (reset = '1') then
     in_reg <=  '0';
     out_reg <= '0';
  elsif (clock'event and clock = '1') then
     out_reg <= some_internal_signal;
     if (out_en = '0') then   -- read from bio_io
       in_reg <= bi_io;
     end if;
  end if;
end process;



Article: 30737
Subject: clock to pad timing
From: tiderh <tiderhuang@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:21:14 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi, 
I have a question about the timing constraint in Xilinx Virtex II. I have 8 DFF outputs going to output pads, and how can I make the clock to pad delay about the same for all these 8 outputs? 
Thanks a lot.

Article: 30738
Subject: Re: clock to pad timing
From: Austin Lesea <austin.lesea@xilinx.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:31:49 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Well,

You use the global clock to clock the FF's.

In Virtex II, the global clock nets are engineered to have less than +/- 100 ps of skew from any FF IOB clock pin from a global clock bus, to any pad on any package.  In the largest devices
(>2V4000) the skew is nominally larger (+/- 120ps).  There is no advantage to keeping the IOB's near each other, other than the obvious routing advantage of traces escaping the area of the part.

This includes the package trace flight time differences as well.

I know the trace report will say "400 ps" but that is only because we have not finished all speeds file parameters based on silicon which we have received and tested.

The reason for all of this wonderful matching is apparent when you implement a 16 bit clock forwarded DDR interface operating at 622 Mb/s.

Austin
FPGA Lab Manager
Xilinx


tiderh wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a question about the timing constraint in Xilinx Virtex II. I have 8 DFF outputs going to output pads, and how can I make the clock to pad delay about the same for all these 8 outputs?
> Thanks a lot.


Article: 30739
Subject: Re: Configuration via PCI JTAG
From: cyber_spook <pjc@cyberspook.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:39:58 +0100
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
maybe your FPGA could recive its code via a configuration device (EPC2
or a PLD with a eeprom hanginging off it) and you could build in a
funtion of your pci fpga - maybe some set target memory that you could
load with new code that would realy get put in your configuration device
ready for your next reboot?

cyber_spook

mike wrote:

> hi all,
> i want to configure my fpga on a pci card via the jtag pins
> on the pci connector, but i dont know how to access these pins.
> can you help me?
> mike


Article: 30740
Subject: XILINX Foundation UCF Problem
From: vikram m n rao <vmrao@students.uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:29:26 -0500
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>

I am having a problem with my XESS XS40 board and making a UCF file in
XILINX Foundation. I've gotten my design to synthesize properly using 2
input pins I described in my user constraints file (UCF), but when
I try to add another input pin, I get the following WARNING
during the synthesis phase:
"Dpm: Warning: Port 'rdin' has no net attached to it- no pad cells
inserted at this port. (FPGA-PADMAP-2)

And when I try to implement the design, I get the following ERROR:
"ERROR:NgdHelpers:18 - Could not find NET "rdin" in design "newcnt3".  NET
entry is "NET rdin LOC=P28;"

However, the input is described in my verilog file (along with 2 other
inputs) as follows:
"module top (clkin, data_out, reset, rdin); //BEGIN (TOP)
parameter n = 17;
input clkin;
input reset;
input rdin;"

and in my UCF file as follows:
"NET reset LOC = P44;
NET clkin LOC=P13;
NET rdin LOC=P28;"

so I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, since the reset and clkin
inputs worked  just fine with no errors, but when I added rdin, I started
getting this error, Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Vik


Article: 30741
Subject: Re: Configuration via PCI JTAG
From: "Austin Franklin" <austin@dark87room.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:35:26 -0400
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
You are only 'allowed' one signal source/destination connected to (most)
each  PCI signal.  You would have to use a bridge...  Unless it's in an
embedded system, you really don't want to break the rules.

"cyber_spook" <pjc@cyberspook.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3AE8879E.17752893@cyberspook.freeserve.co.uk...
> maybe your FPGA could recive its code via a configuration device (EPC2
> or a PLD with a eeprom hanginging off it) and you could build in a
> funtion of your pci fpga - maybe some set target memory that you could
> load with new code that would realy get put in your configuration device
> ready for your next reboot?
>
> cyber_spook
>
> mike wrote:
>
> > hi all,
> > i want to configure my fpga on a pci card via the jtag pins
> > on the pci connector, but i dont know how to access these pins.
> > can you help me?
> > mike
>



Article: 30742
Subject: Re: Configuration via PCI JTAG
From: "Erik Widding" <widding@birger.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:26:27 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
> "cyber_spook" <pjc@cyberspook.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3AE8879E.17752893@cyberspook.freeserve.co.uk...
> > maybe your FPGA could recive its code via a configuration device (EPC2
> > or a PLD with a eeprom hanginging off it) and you could build in a
> > funtion of your pci fpga - maybe some set target memory that you could
> > load with new code that would realy get put in your configuration device
> > ready for your next reboot?
> >

"Austin Franklin" <austin@dark87room.com> wrote in message
news:9caid1$8m6$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> You are only 'allowed' one signal source/destination connected to (most)
> each  PCI signal.  You would have to use a bridge...  Unless it's in an
> embedded system, you really don't want to break the rules.

No need to use a bridge.  One merely needs to have two sets of
configuration data on the card, and a mode to change from the first to the
second.

Configuration number one will be non-volatile, and used to boot the card.
It
will contain a PCI core, and only three functions:
    Say "hello" to BIOS for allocation of resources at boot.
    Read/Write conguration memory two from PCI bus.
    Kickstart configuration from memory number two.

Configuration number two contains whatever you want it to, and could be
stored in a more volatile fashion, i.e. Parallel SRAM.  I would boot from a
XC17xx prom, and use a small CPLD and an SRAM for the second config.
The only extra overhead that your additional configs will have to carry, is
the ability to kickstart configuration from the serial prom.

Painless reconfigurable computing.  If one will be constantly switching
between configurations, just make the SRAM larger, and give every config
the ability to tell the config controller which configuration to use for the
next kickstart.

Config controller will fit a <$2  XC9536.  No need for the JTAG port.  No
bridge chip required.  The SRAM/CPLD/XC17xx xolution is much cheaper
than those flash based config devices.  And, best of all, no rules were
broken.


Regards,
Erik Widding.


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>
> > cyber_spook
> >
> > mike wrote:
> >
> > > hi all,
> > > i want to configure my fpga on a pci card via the jtag pins
> > > on the pci connector, but i dont know how to access these pins.
> > > can you help me?
> > > mike
> >
>
>



Article: 30743
Subject: Bidirection Macro
From: Jeff <madisonfff@usa.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:47:59 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi I have a series of register,they share one date bus.
according different addresses& RW signal, I can read/write data into different registers, 
so my data bus is bidirection,
I have implemented a macro for such register, macro works fine 
however I could not implement it in Xilinx Foundation 3.li

Article: 30744
Subject: Modelsim license
From: "Meelis Kuris" <matiku@hot.ee>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:02:05 +0300
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi!

I remember some time ago here was a thread about
getting Modelsim license.
Now I have the same problem, I get only an e-mail from
Xilinx where they thank me for registering, but no license.
Tried twice, nothing.
I remember also that about 4 months ago I was getting
the license for Modelsim starter the same way, everything
worked fine then, now I need license for Modelsm XE
evaluation version.

Has anybody any suggestions?

Thanx,

Meelis



Article: 30745
Subject: back annotation
From: "Tomasz Brychcy" <T.Brychcy@ime.pz.zgora.pl>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:38:12 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hello,

What exactly does mean: back annotation?Could you explain me on any example?

Best regards

Tomek

T.Brychcy@ime.pz.zgora.pl




Article: 30746
Subject: difference?
From: "Tomasz Brychcy" <T.Brychcy@ime.pz.zgora.pl>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:41:32 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hello,

What is diferrence between cascaded logic and balanced logic?

I greet

Tomek

T.Brychcy@ime.pz.zgora.pl




Article: 30747
Subject: Re: Bidirection port simulation
From: ivar <ivar@stantech.dk>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:48:10 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi Jeff
Try using: after 20ns do (release SignalName)
Best regards
ivar

Article: 30748
Subject: Virtex-II: Clock-to-PAD Issue
From: "Jinhua Li" <jhli@memec-asiapacific.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:05:28 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi All,

Could you help me for this issue?

Virtex-II Data sheet show the Tiockp=3.73ns max (Ver.1.5). But the Timing Analyzer show the Tiockp=8.003ns (Tool: F3.3i SP7).
Which is correct?

Thanks

Jinhua Li

Article: 30749
Subject: VirtexE 5V PCI
From: "Tobias Stumber" <tobias.stumber@de.bosch.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:17:28 +0200
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi !

We have a PCI board with one Virtex (for PCI) and one
VirtexE (for LVDS) on it. Its running well, but it would be
nice to eliminate one of the two chips.

I know the VirtexE IO-pins are not 5V tolerant, you have to
use a 100 ohm series resistor. This fact doesn't allow the
use of VirtexE in 5V signaling PCI environments since these
resistors are not allowed by the PCI specification.

Now my question:
Nevertheless, has anyone of you tried to run a VirtexE
with series resistors in a 5V PCI slot ?
Is this only violating the specs but running quite stable
or will this cause  face serious signal integrity problems ?

Reagrds, Tobias

PS: We dont have to get the "PCI compliant" sticker but
the board shold run very stable.






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